Skynet is taking over!

  • #30, by MachtnixThursday, 03. August 2017, 21:17 7 years ago
    Fuck! Das ist doch immer dasselbe Ar....... ! Wieso kann man den nicht ausknipsen??

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  • #31, by afrlmeThursday, 03. August 2017, 21:32 7 years ago
    I've sent a message to Calli (I think - not 100% certain as I get 404 when I try to load his profile page) to ask about status of moderator permission thing & about possibly implementing captcha solver for people with less than 10 or so posts.

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  • #32, by maxpayneFriday, 04. August 2017, 07:42 7 years ago
    Calli and Simon were very busy. I hope we can finally solve the spam problem soon wink A forum post captcha and mods could solve this...

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  • #33, by sebastianFriday, 04. August 2017, 08:23 7 years ago
    I've sent a message to Calli (I think - not 100% certain as I get 404 when I try to load his profile page) to ask about status of moderator permission thing & about possibly implementing captcha solver for people with less than 10 or so posts.
    This site already has a captcha for its registration form. Its that google "nocaptcha" thing where you only click "Im not a robot" and it checks a lot of stuff with an complicated algorythm if your browsing behavioir is more like a bot or human. 
    So human spammers will pass through even if you make another captcha when posting something in the topics or create a new one. 
    On my (old) website + Minecraft community forum I implemented a normal captcha with random questions regarding the site or minecraft server (whats the name of the server, how many cities can you join,...). That made it to complicated for these spam people to deal with finding information on the site. A normal user who wanted to join the forums anyway had no problems answering these... 

    We also checked the entered emails at registration against spam list servers and blocked a lot of (trash) email providers in the first place. 

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    Another possibility to prevent these is to check the entered title/post strings against a list of typical spam post text blocks like we saw lately. 

    A post with "free passports, etc" for example gets queued and needs to be checked by a moderator / admin

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  • #34, by dionousFriday, 04. August 2017, 09:16 7 years ago
    I think the problem begins in the registration process. Spammers need to be identified and blocked during registration. There are various solutions in CMS's like Joomla, Wordpress etc..

    Which CMS and which forum component is the site using?

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  • #35, by sebastianFriday, 04. August 2017, 09:44 7 years ago
    Which CMS and which forum component is the site using?
    selfmade stuff. 

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  • #36, by dionousFriday, 04. August 2017, 09:47 7 years ago
    Selfmade? Nowadays this is not the best way to go i think... imo especially for forums you need an established, secure solution, not to mention feature rich. Personally i'd go for Kunena, because i have used it and it is the best in Joomla CMS.


    Our forum here to be honest is quite basic:

    - Mixed English/German
    - Cannot search my previous posts
    - Basic search functionality, i find posts easier using Google Search
    - There is no segregation of topics categories (this is very basic).Basically it feels like a big bowl where we drop stuff inside.

    And many more, just check the forum above to get an idea

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  • #37, by sebastianFriday, 04. August 2017, 10:17 7 years ago
    yeah thats another construction site i would prefer, too. There are several good cms/forum systems out there. 

    But i see the point in making it by their own and only adding the features they want (even if some of the now integrated stuff works only "ok"-ish...) . There is much more potential in here but it takes very long to implement features and fix bugs. 


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  • #38, by afrlmeFriday, 04. August 2017, 11:39 7 years ago
    I always used to use SMF (simple machines) as it was free, came with decent features in the vanilla version & there were tons of both free & paid third party modules for people that wanted to add something extra to their forum Me & friend took some of the free mods & rewrote them to suit our purpose.

    But yes, you are correct. Ideally a wip CMS should not be used on a live site for testing - especially when that live site is for a product that is being sold. But things are as they are & Thomas wants to test it, so that's how things will stay I guess.

    By the way, there is a method for posting to different categories but it's not really easy to spot & I don't use it myself because of that reason. I would prefer to have the forum board split into grouped categories with child sub categories just like your typical forum CMS as it's much easier to see & manage.

    @ Sebastian: I know there's a captcha in the registration. Problem is, you can't make it too complicated with custom created question ones as new members might have a bit of difficulty answering them, but I suppose you could create a more complicated one for registration. Maybe use the current one they are using & create a form that asks a question about VS & a couple of questions with answers that they can select from dropdown boxes. Would likely weed out the more serious people from the human spammers. I think the first forum posts should just have the captcha they are currently using though as it's just a way to slow down & irritate human spammers & if any of us are online that have moderator permissions, then we can silence/ban the person & delete their posts before they can make too many.

    The filters thing is a good idea, but it's a bit hard to target certain things unless you listen out for x amount of key words in a thread title. "buy, fake, passports, documents, pills, medicine, etc".

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  • #39, by marvelFriday, 04. August 2017, 13:57 7 years ago
    First: We don't use our CMS on this site for testing. That's nonsense. We build this CMS to provide an integrated shop, forum, payment, invoice generation, forum, administration, multilinguality, picture management, user management and many more things in one solution. We are also free to add things if we want to. Same goes for Visionaire Studio as well... or we could have said "Use AGS", 10 years ago. wink But we didn't do that and started to work on our own engine. 

    We have a brilliant solition here and a beautiful page. For sure there are things to come or things that need adjustment - same goes for Visionaire Studio again. It's that easy... and the discussion about it is kind of unnessessary. 

    The spam problems should be solved for now. We will see. What did we do? I won't tell... wink Some parts of the answer could frighten you grin (to say it in the words of a popular german minister)

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  • #40, by afrlmeFriday, 04. August 2017, 14:23 7 years ago
    First: We don't use our CMS on this site for testing. That's nonsense. We build this CMS to provide an integrated shop, forum, payment, invoice generation, forum, administration, multilinguality, picture management, user management and many more things in one solution. We are also free to add things if we want to. Same goes for Visionaire Studio as well... or we could have said "Use AGS", 10 years ago. wink But we didn't do that and started to work on our own engine. 

    We have a brilliant solition here and a beautiful page. For sure there are things to come or things that need adjustment - same goes for Visionaire Studio again. It's that easy... and the discussion about it is kind of unnessessary. 

    The spam problems should be solved for now. We will see. What did we do? I won't tell... wink Some parts of the answer could frighten you grin (to say it in the words of a popular german minister)
    It is a test of sorts as we are the ones that mention when something is broken. & yes overall it looks nice & most features work as they are supposed to work, but as you say, it's lacking some of the features you get with most standard forum cms, such as easily recognizable board categories & the moderator based permission classes.

    Glad to hear that the spambo nonsense should hopefully be resolved as it's been ridiculous as of late. I used to get the odd one on my old forum - was always something about fake prada/gucci bags or something, but they never mass posted like these spammers have been doing. I still can't believe the cheek of that one that replied to my private message with "no hard feelings" :shakeshark: -- good point. Now the spam is sorted can someone please add the shakeshark emoticon to the emoji database. Cheers. wink

    P.S: it can be found here: http://taimotive.deviantart.com/art/shakeshark-31088467 - there's actually a bunch of shake emoticons on that account.

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